there was no time to detail the prayer demonstrated in the story of grar
however it is an important lesson
!!
and very different from any prayer i ever heard
so outside of the 45 minute session [not completed yet] i focus on it
in genesis 20 god said something unexpected to the king of grar
background
abraham traveled to grar why? according to josepus abram was a teacher and wanted to teach his faith in many places see footnote later
the bible does not say why he traveled to grar perhaps his neighbors were mean to him for not worshipping their idols
??
!!
harem is defined "(In former times) the separate part of a Muslim household reserved for wives, concubines, and female servants:"showever muslim began with muhamed and ramadan and before that there was no ramadan nor "the islam"m in its form
he took her for her beauty
god warned this king! and said something very inappropriate
"r"20.7 restore the man's wife; for he is a prophet, and he shall pray for thee, and thou shalt live; "e
this is totally inappropriate
!!
if gods plan is IF you return her you live and if not die then prayer is not a factor
unless THIS IS THE DEFINING ISSUE OF PRAYER
god has a plan and we should pray for his plan
we should not pray forwhat we want because we will not get it
gods plan is you will live and part of the plan is he wants abram to pray for this plan AFTER it is planned
PRAYER IS NOT TO CHANGE GODS PLAN
the way many religious pray whether the jew-prayer book or christian "miracles of prayindg and god answering" is in conflict with this plan of god in cwhich god said his plan and already planned he will live and added abraham will pray FOR WHAT IS PLANNED not to change the plan and not to advise god what to do and not to inform god what he needs
this is prayer after the plan is formulated
if you have time or later i added footnotes for periphery issues in the story
footnote: according to josepus abraham taught monotheism which is appropriate in canaan culture where they had many idols in contrast to egypt where each city had one god adn when egypt was united all cities had the god of the king even more one god so before unity each egyptian had one god the god of his city tho different from an outside city and after unity all had not only one god but same one ghod and so the story that josepus wrote about egypt conflits and does not match what we know about egypt at that era but can be applied to canan instead if any change of opinions happened in egypt the monotheists changed abram and not the reverse
footnote lie was for fear to save life as in chapter 12 and here 20.11
And Abraham said: 'Because I thought: Surely the fear of God is not in this place; and they will slay me for my wife's also calling it lie would be unjust. it was misleading- to save his life, but not a lie as explained in 20.12
she is indeed my sister, the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and so she became my wife
rabbi nahmanidies and jewish commentaries criticize abram's lie and that is very inconsiderate and judgemental to blame abram for what he said in fear- for the ancients could not take a married woman and killed the man to solve the "problem"m
however it is an important lesson
!!
and very different from any prayer i ever heard
so outside of the 45 minute session [not completed yet] i focus on it
in genesis 20 god said something unexpected to the king of grar
background
abraham traveled to grar why? according to josepus abram was a teacher and wanted to teach his faith in many places see footnote later
the bible does not say why he traveled to grar perhaps his neighbors were mean to him for not worshipping their idols
??
in grar abram said his wife is "is my sister" a lie to save his life. later see footnote
so the king took her but not to his harem!!
harem is defined "(In former times) the separate part of a Muslim household reserved for wives, concubines, and female servants:"showever muslim began with muhamed and ramadan and before that there was no ramadan nor "the islam"m in its form
he took her for her beauty
god warned this king! and said something very inappropriate
"r"20.7 restore the man's wife; for he is a prophet, and he shall pray for thee, and thou shalt live; "e
this is totally inappropriate
!!
if gods plan is IF you return her you live and if not die then prayer is not a factor
unless THIS IS THE DEFINING ISSUE OF PRAYER
god has a plan and we should pray for his plan
we should not pray forwhat we want because we will not get it
gods plan is you will live and part of the plan is he wants abram to pray for this plan AFTER it is planned
PRAYER IS NOT TO CHANGE GODS PLAN
the way many religious pray whether the jew-prayer book or christian "miracles of prayindg and god answering" is in conflict with this plan of god in cwhich god said his plan and already planned he will live and added abraham will pray FOR WHAT IS PLANNED not to change the plan and not to advise god what to do and not to inform god what he needs
this is prayer after the plan is formulated
if you have time or later i added footnotes for periphery issues in the story
footnote: according to josepus abraham taught monotheism which is appropriate in canaan culture where they had many idols in contrast to egypt where each city had one god adn when egypt was united all cities had the god of the king even more one god so before unity each egyptian had one god the god of his city tho different from an outside city and after unity all had not only one god but same one ghod and so the story that josepus wrote about egypt conflits and does not match what we know about egypt at that era but can be applied to canan instead if any change of opinions happened in egypt the monotheists changed abram and not the reverse
footnote lie was for fear to save life as in chapter 12 and here 20.11
And Abraham said: 'Because I thought: Surely the fear of God is not in this place; and they will slay me for my wife's also calling it lie would be unjust. it was misleading- to save his life, but not a lie as explained in 20.12
she is indeed my sister, the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and so she became my wife
rabbi nahmanidies and jewish commentaries criticize abram's lie and that is very inconsiderate and judgemental to blame abram for what he said in fear- for the ancients could not take a married woman and killed the man to solve the "problem"m
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