session one continued
pre-covenant continued
until now: summarized the creator made all and rested on the seventh day [1 (means: chapter 1)]. next, an elaboration of god's plan for human life as shown in genesis 2. adam sinned 3, cain killed his brother 4 an act we must recognize as harmful and evil [1 john 3.12].
continue: enoch 7th from adam (5) was a prophet [jude 1.14] he had faith and did not die as an exception; however death did reign from adam until moses and without the "law" there was no hope [eph 2.12-16, later please read] and not only did cain deserve specific punishment for murder but also "even those who did not act against a command=not do a forbidden act" died completely [romans 5.14; perhaps they did not have eternal souls until the "law", see 1 cor 15.45 later].
Jesus related to these stories as events that occurred in Matthew 19 and 24, if so when we read about long lives, what evidence exists that they did not live long? none of us saw when they died in the past! we can only guess about the past, unless god reveals it.
according to Genesis, Adam, who conversed with god, lived hundreds of years. he knew god so he taught people for nine hundred years. monotheism began long before abraham- my apologies to josepus and public opinion. according to genesis around 1050 years passed between adam and noah's birth:130+105+90+70+65+162+65+187+182=1056. [please do not chech the numbers now because it will take time in the 45 minute-session]
continue: enoch 7th from adam (5) was a prophet [jude 1.14] he had faith and did not die as an exception; however death did reign from adam until moses and without the "law" there was no hope [eph 2.12-16, later please read] and not only did cain deserve specific punishment for murder but also "even those who did not act against a command=not do a forbidden act" died completely [romans 5.14; perhaps they did not have eternal souls until the "law", see 1 cor 15.45 later].
Jesus related to these stories as events that occurred in Matthew 19 and 24, if so when we read about long lives, what evidence exists that they did not live long? none of us saw when they died in the past! we can only guess about the past, unless god reveals it.
according to Genesis, Adam, who conversed with god, lived hundreds of years. he knew god so he taught people for nine hundred years. monotheism began long before abraham- my apologies to josepus and public opinion. according to genesis around 1050 years passed between adam and noah's birth:130+105+90+70+65+162+65+187+182=1056. [please do not chech the numbers now because it will take time in the 45 minute-session]
however Septuagint translation and josepus preserve the original version, which totals 600 more years- hence nine generations is 1656 until noah's BIRTH [as mentioned, jesus relied on septuagint] and 600 more years until ark in 2256=2256 years without troubles.
Jesus specified in mt 24.37-39 that the flood occurred. can anyone support the claim that genesis is a lie? we can only GUESS about the past unless we believe prophecy.
Jesus specified in mt 24.37-39 that the flood occurred. can anyone support the claim that genesis is a lie? we can only GUESS about the past unless we believe prophecy.
noah entered the ark and the flood of water came [6-9] when none besides noah knew and without a covenant those people had no hope as above. also the water flooded the thieves who even abducted ladies, and washed away the evil. not ONLY murder is evil and harmful.
according to genesis, from flood until abraham's birth totals 292 years- however septuagint and josepus preserve original which totals around 1000 years, a millennium with no story worth mentioning besides the great tower [10-11].
abrahams stories fill 14 chapters and will be the bulk of this summary.
terah led abram and abram's wife from"Ur" to go to canaan 11. some date abram 2095 bc. the israeli ministry of education wrote [to me, the same idea in the text book] that biblical history "possibly cannot be dated" and teachers should not emphasize how long ago in the past.
god had appeared to abram before he dwelled in city-haran [mentioned in gen. 11.31] and as a result traveled with father.
note: this interpretation by stephen acts 7, is not only supported by the hebrew word moledet [like laledet birth+place], but also this word refutes a section in a book by a professor in the hebrew university-jerusalem using this section to demonstrate genesis must be a lie.
i note the unique "process" of beginning with the claim "everyone knows the bible is not reliable" allowing to invent an imaginary story and then quote specific verses as "support" from this book that was called "unreliable" as "support"- this is a flaw in logic ONLY for the reason that after claiming it is not reliable, for that reason it does not support.
a similar flaw: In the end it is claimed that certain verses are "reliable" enough that they CAN support, hence it is silly to play games which ones you like and it is as real as sci-fi to write a differing imaginary theory with a "story" unless describing and interpreting specific archeological artifacts. besides, the hebrew word "moledet" refutes the whole claim in that section of the book by supporting stephen and the book of acts.
stephen had the holy spirit to help him.
abraham obeyed the directive, which had been given years before [acts 7 supported by hebrew word moledet] and left city-haran. he traveled to skem [nablus=shchem] and built altars 12. later abraham and Lot separated 13 but when the war of the kings involved city-sodom, abram rescued lot and defeated the king with a few hundred servants 14, by attacking at night from both sides and chased them far to damascus 14. god said I will give you a son 15.4 and abram believed.
this FAITH was righteousness 15 and only faith is called righteous- in contrast to the rescue- not even the virteous act of rescuing lot was called righteous! these stories demonstrate the biblical message that no act is as powerful as faith, and specifically righteous IS by faith. also in psalms the righteous does not live by the righteousness but "by faith".
this FAITH was righteousness 15 and only faith is called righteous- in contrast to the rescue- not even the virteous act of rescuing lot was called righteous! these stories demonstrate the biblical message that no act is as powerful as faith, and specifically righteous IS by faith. also in psalms the righteous does not live by the righteousness but "by faith".
in addition to pledging a son, god also pledged LAND [as defined by stephen in acts 7: "the land you dwell in here" not a symbol of heaven or anything else but rather here where you judges live] but abraham questioned this. in the same section we read he had faith, if so why is land different?
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why not faith for land? i suggest that abram feared that what he had heard about land might be his own imaginary greed-
a greed to take land from canaanites, to have a place for his offspring to live, a greed which caused him to imagine that "god told me so". this is not an issue of faith in god but rather abram did not trust himself- his experience and doubted god realy added this message.
he worried that what he thought was from god, possibly, was his own desire, so he asked for a sign. if he would not get a sign he would know it was his temptation fooling him to claim the land of the cannaanites. despite his faith in god, he doubted self.
when abram's dream included things he did NOT want, then he was certain that his own temptation was not producing the experience: your descendants will suffer. god also gave a sign: the fire pass between the meat and this is called a covenant 15.15-19
he worried that what he thought was from god, possibly, was his own desire, so he asked for a sign. if he would not get a sign he would know it was his temptation fooling him to claim the land of the cannaanites. despite his faith in god, he doubted self.
when abram's dream included things he did NOT want, then he was certain that his own temptation was not producing the experience: your descendants will suffer. god also gave a sign: the fire pass between the meat and this is called a covenant 15.15-19
the land was promised to abraham and his descendants isac and jacob as specified in acts 7 and romans 8.7-13
as i conclude part one of session one [which summarized until the end of the pre-covenant era, with this covenant in genesis 15.18]-
i end with a story, told by an american evangelist who met an arab in the 1970's and soon after meeting him, this specific arab complained that the israeli government is jews taking arab land. the evangelist christian attempted to avoid politics by saying let us see what god said to abraham and showed genesis.
that specific arab read and replied "i only believe in the new part".
i ask: "what is the difference between the books? acts 7 and romans 8 have the same idea."
knowing acts 7 and romans 8 as mentioned, i fear that had the new testament been quoted as a source for what stephen said and the context exposed, then that specific arab would prefer to deny the entire christian bible, rather than abandon his political view [which perhaps was the key part of his arab identity.]
people deny the word of god despite the prophetic evidence that these books are from the god who knows the future before it occurs, and has told us many times what will happen, before it occurred- numerous times.
we now conclude part one of session one sumarizing the pre-covenant era.
note I read this in 11 minutes 6+11=17. 25 minutes to go. dry outline:
note I read this in 11 minutes 6+11=17. 25 minutes to go. dry outline:
chapters 1-15 we review: creation 1-2, gods idea of marriage 2, adam sinned 3 and cain killed abel 4 2200 years passed [in septuagint 5], and noah entered the ark. a thousand years passed until abraham 10-11 in septuagint, during which there was no hope eph. 2.12-16 until the law=gods gift through moses to israel - death ruled until moses=romans 5.14
abraham traveled 11-12 built altars 12 separated from lot 13 fought the kings to rescue lot 14 the covenant of land 15 concluding the pre- covenant era
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footnote how did people live long until abraham?
also IF they did, then why don't we? evolution can explain: today we get sick by evolved strong viruses-
also IF they did, then why don't we? evolution can explain: today we get sick by evolved strong viruses-
they weaken us and shorten our lives. before they evolved over the last thousands of years they did not weaken the people, until they evolved into strong "fittest" microbes and the weak ones became extinct.
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